The Expanda-Draft aspect of this contest was put in for several reasons - to allow players to pick up teams that surprised everyone and are marching towards an NCAA birth, to add the possibility of "tweaking" your squad to improve your chances - especially for those bottom dwellers, and to give players a chance to pick up mid and low major conference teams that look like they are going to stomp their way into the Big Dance.
As we think about our draft options, consider these point rules:
- A team that wins a major conference (6) regular season earns 9 points
- A team that wins a mid-major conference (9) regular season earns 7 points
- A team that wins a non-major conference regular season earns 6 points
- A team that wins a major conference (6) tournament earns 7 points
- A team that wins a mid-major conference (9) tournament earns 5 points
- A team that wins a non-major conference (16) tournament earns 4 points
- A team that completes the regular conference season undefeated earns +3 points.
This is where a non-major team can be worth drafting - they win a dozen games (12 points) plus win their conference (6 pts) and tournament (4 pts). Plus keep in mind...
- Each team that makes the NCAA tourney receives 3 points
So while picking up a major conference team like Cincy or Virginia has the advantage of possible points against Duke or Pittsburgh, they may not see any of the points above.
RULES OF THE INTERIM DRAFT & RELEASE
- The last week of January, each player must draft 2 additional teams.
- Draft order will utilize snake method, with pick 1 going to last place point earner
- A voluntary third round will take place following the 2-round draft, in which one team from the original roster can be dropped and a new team picked up. All existing points from original team will remain. Order will continue snake method from round 2.
- Points will begin to be earned by the new teams on February 2, and new points will no longer be added for the discarded team effective February 2.
The draft order is set following the last game on: Sunday, January 23, 2011. Due to the number of picks, we'll be looking to get going right away Monday Jan 24. Current Draft Order if it happened today:
1. Musashisan 113 (79-49)
2. Slake B 116 (72-48)
3. Some Guy in Illinois 125 (81-43)
4. Jutdog 131 (83-40)
5. Jaybird 142 (89-39)
6.....
Top Major and Mid-Major Teams on the Radar:
1. Cincinnatti (16-1)
2. Virginia (10-6 every game is head to head)
3. Nebraska (13-3)
4. UCF (14-1)
5. Hostra (5-0 conf with 3 other players in)
6. Arkansas (11-4)
7. Boise St (4-0 conf)
8. Cleveland State (15-3)
9. Colorado St (11-5)
10. Tulane (12-4)
11. Marshall (12-4)
12. James Madison (13-3)
13. Iowa St (13-4)
14. George Washington (3-0 conf play; 10-5)
15. Duquense (2-0 conf play; 10-5)
16. Portland (12-4)
Showing posts with label Rules. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Rules. Show all posts
Thursday, January 13, 2011
Sunday, March 21, 2010
Looking at Next Year's BabbleImprovements
Time to start considering rule improvements, if any, to the league. I'll start by offering a few reflections on a few changes from the past two years:
Wins over AP top 10 teams (rule implemented two seasons ago): Akaoni dominated this field this field this year, capturing twice as many points (24) as other players, except for his fellow Iowan Turtle (16). This added significant interest to games against top teams, and appropriately rewarded teams for these big wins. I think this is a great addition to the league.
Undefeated regular season conference play: Only Babs snagged this 3 point bonus with Butler going undefeated. This is a nice perk that adds a little interest as conference play concludes, and appropriately rewards a team that acheives this significantly challenging feat. I would not be opposed to making this a 4 point bonus for next year.
Some early thoughts on potential improvements to the league:
This year's MWC and Atl10 proved to be significant players, with a combined 7 teams making the NCAA cut. The Atl10 also had three 20+ win teams that didn't make the cut in Rhode Island, Dayton, and St Louis. Meanwhile, the Pac10 obviously had a down year, with only two squads making the cut. Even the Big 10 only had 5, with Minnesota just making the chopping block. This leads me to again offer the following simple creation of a three tier conference system that I believe more appropriately reflects the state of college basketball:
Conf Grouping & Point Restructuring - Create 3 conference tiers: Major, Mid-Major, and Minor.
~ Major conferences (6 confs) would not change.
~ Mid-Major (9 confs) would consist of Atl 10, Mountain West, Miss Valley, CUSA, Horizon, WAC, West Coast, MAC, & CAA.
~ Minor would consist of the rest (16 confs).
~ Regular Season Champ Points: Tier one reg season championship: 10 pts; Tier two reg season championship: 8 pts; Tier three reg season championship: 6 pts.
~ Conference Tourney Champ Points: A conf tourney champion would receive: 8, 6, and 4.
At current, there is no mid-major tier, a team that wins a major conference regular season earns 7 points and a non-major conference regular season earns 6 points; A team that wins a major conference tournament earns 5 points and a non-major 4 points.
Additional potential changes:
Last years rule change discussion happened here.
Restructure NCAA Tourney Points:
~ Reduce the point reward for "making the NCAA" from 4pts to 3 pts. For many teams, there is already a significant boost from winning their league tourney.
~ Increase round 1 win from 2pts to 3 pts
~ Reduce round 3 win from 8 pts to 7 pts
~ Reduce round 4 win from 12 pts to 10 pts
~ Reduce Final Four win from 16 pts to 13 pts
~ Reduce Final win from 20pts to 17 pts.
This basically gives the NCAA winner 55 pts, plus 3 for making the tourney, plus 6 for each win, and plus a few 2's for wins vs other players. It is only a slight reduction of 8 total points, but I believe produces a more even and balanced point system. As our initial point system (and this proposal) was arbitrary, this is obviously wide open to discussion.
And finally: I thought the league was a bit more entertaining with 12 players as opposed to this year's 10. Even with the increased number of picks a round, we still saw numerous quality selections throughout ( SEE HERE ). Jaybird still pulled it off with the #1 and #24 picks, but Babs stormed into 2nd with the 10th and 15th picks. Overall I felt that this season's picks were much more informed and researched.
Wins over AP top 10 teams (rule implemented two seasons ago): Akaoni dominated this field this field this year, capturing twice as many points (24) as other players, except for his fellow Iowan Turtle (16). This added significant interest to games against top teams, and appropriately rewarded teams for these big wins. I think this is a great addition to the league.
Undefeated regular season conference play: Only Babs snagged this 3 point bonus with Butler going undefeated. This is a nice perk that adds a little interest as conference play concludes, and appropriately rewards a team that acheives this significantly challenging feat. I would not be opposed to making this a 4 point bonus for next year.
Some early thoughts on potential improvements to the league:
This year's MWC and Atl10 proved to be significant players, with a combined 7 teams making the NCAA cut. The Atl10 also had three 20+ win teams that didn't make the cut in Rhode Island, Dayton, and St Louis. Meanwhile, the Pac10 obviously had a down year, with only two squads making the cut. Even the Big 10 only had 5, with Minnesota just making the chopping block. This leads me to again offer the following simple creation of a three tier conference system that I believe more appropriately reflects the state of college basketball:
Conf Grouping & Point Restructuring - Create 3 conference tiers: Major, Mid-Major, and Minor.
~ Major conferences (6 confs) would not change.
~ Mid-Major (9 confs) would consist of Atl 10, Mountain West, Miss Valley, CUSA, Horizon, WAC, West Coast, MAC, & CAA.
~ Minor would consist of the rest (16 confs).
~ Regular Season Champ Points: Tier one reg season championship: 10 pts; Tier two reg season championship: 8 pts; Tier three reg season championship: 6 pts.
~ Conference Tourney Champ Points: A conf tourney champion would receive: 8, 6, and 4.
At current, there is no mid-major tier, a team that wins a major conference regular season earns 7 points and a non-major conference regular season earns 6 points; A team that wins a major conference tournament earns 5 points and a non-major 4 points.
Additional potential changes:
Last years rule change discussion happened here.
Restructure NCAA Tourney Points:
~ Reduce the point reward for "making the NCAA" from 4pts to 3 pts. For many teams, there is already a significant boost from winning their league tourney.
~ Increase round 1 win from 2pts to 3 pts
~ Reduce round 3 win from 8 pts to 7 pts
~ Reduce round 4 win from 12 pts to 10 pts
~ Reduce Final Four win from 16 pts to 13 pts
~ Reduce Final win from 20pts to 17 pts.
This basically gives the NCAA winner 55 pts, plus 3 for making the tourney, plus 6 for each win, and plus a few 2's for wins vs other players. It is only a slight reduction of 8 total points, but I believe produces a more even and balanced point system. As our initial point system (and this proposal) was arbitrary, this is obviously wide open to discussion.
And finally: I thought the league was a bit more entertaining with 12 players as opposed to this year's 10. Even with the increased number of picks a round, we still saw numerous quality selections throughout ( SEE HERE ). Jaybird still pulled it off with the #1 and #24 picks, but Babs stormed into 2nd with the 10th and 15th picks. Overall I felt that this season's picks were much more informed and researched.
Tuesday, July 21, 2009
2009 - 2010 Challenge Rules
Following last year, the league conducted a vote on proposed rule changes. Following the vote, and as expected, Iowa complained. The final tally of those who voted resulted in an overwhelming support of a provision to add +3 pts for an undefeated regular season conference. As a result, this componant will be added to the 09-10 challenge season. There was then a 3-way tie for 2nd, including support of A, D, and G (see 3/28/09 post). Due to the lack of any clear support for a 2nd change, and the vocalized opposition to causing any significant changes, I've made a preliminary determination to only implement the well-supported +3 pts for an undefeated reg conference season. All other rules will remain the same, and are as follows:
Overview:
Players select teams from NCAA D-1 Men's Basketball in a draft before the season begins. Points are earned by winning games, tournaments, conference standings, and by beating other players. The goal - to have the most points at the end of the season.
Scoring:
- A team earns 1 point for every 1 D-1 win
- A team loses 2 points for every loss to a non-D-1 team (because that is a sorry loss)
- A team earns 2 extra points for a vicory over another player's non-AP top 10 team (3 total)
- A team earns 2 extra point for a victory over a non-player AP top 10 team (3 total)
- A team earns 4 extra point for a victory over another player's AP top 10 team (5 total)
- A team that wins a pre / in-season tournament receives points as follows (SUBJECT TO CHANGE BY BABBLEMUR):
a. Coaches Vs Cancer = 4 pts
b. NIT Preseason = 4
c. College Ball Experience Classic = 3
d. Maui Invitational = 3
e. Great Alaskan Shootout = 3
f. Old Spice Classic = 3
g. Puerto Rico Tipoff = 3
h. Anaheim Classic = 3
i. Paradise Jam = 3
- A team that wins a major conference regular season earns 7 points
- A team that wins a non-major conference regular season earns 6 points
- A team that wins a major conference tournament earns 5 points
- A team that wins a non-major conference tournament earns 4 points
- A team that completes the regular conference season undefeated earns +3 points.
- A team that makes the post-season NIT final 4 receives 2 points*
- A team that makes the post-season NIT championship receives 4 points*
- The team that wins the post-season NIT championship receives 7 points*
- Each team that makes the NCAA tourney receives 4 points
- Each team earns 2 points for a NCAA tourney round 1 win*
- Each team earns 5 points for a NCAA tourney round 2 win*
- Each team earns 8 points for a NCAA tourney round 3 win*
- Each team earns 12 points for a NCAA tourney round 4 win*
- Each team earns 16 points for reaching the NCAA final*
- The team that wins the NCAA tourney earns 20 points.*
- * Each post-season win over another player will also include +2 points
Preseason Draft:
- Each player will draft 8 NCAA D-1 Men's Basketball Teams
- No team can be drafted by more than one player
- Round 1 draft order is chosen randomly
- Draft will follow snake draft method (team A picks 1 and 8, team B picks 2 and 7, etc)
- No player can draft more than 1 team from the same conference in the first 4 rounds
- No player can draft more than 2 teams from the same conference (in preseason)
Interim Draft and Release:
- The last week of January, each player must draft 2 additional teams.
- Draft order will utilize snake method, with pick 1 going to last place point earner
- A voluntary third round will take place following the 2-round draft, in which one team from the original roster can be dropped and a new team picked up. All existing points from original team will remain. Order will continue snake method from round 2.
- Points will begin to be earned by the new teams on February 2, and new points will no longer be added for the discarded team effective February 2.
More
- Major Conferences include: ACC, Big 10, Big East, Big 12, Pac 10, and SEC
- Winner receives highly coveted & valued prizes from the BabblemurVault & ProgressMedia
- Winner also receives a place in the honorable Babbleball Hall of Fame
- Re. Playing your own team. A victory over your own team does not produce the +2 effect, nor the +4 effect if it is a top 10 team. You would still earn 1 point for a victory.
- While the CBI itself isn't worth anything, a team will still earn 1 point for each victory, and +2 for a victory over another player's team throughout CBI play
- Only the preseason tourneys listed are worth additional points for winning.
- AP poll is effective 2:00pm on each Monday throughout the pre and regular season, and lasts through the end of conference tourneys. Following the conference tourney, you will no longer receive a +2 bonus for defeating a "top ten" team
- If two teams tie for conference regular season champs, both teams are awarded full points
- Winning a division within a conference does not produce additional bonus points under the conference champion rule. If a conference is divided into divisions, only the overall conference champion will be awarded the bonus points, with no bonus points for winning a division but not the overall conference
Overview:
Players select teams from NCAA D-1 Men's Basketball in a draft before the season begins. Points are earned by winning games, tournaments, conference standings, and by beating other players. The goal - to have the most points at the end of the season.
Scoring:
- A team earns 1 point for every 1 D-1 win
- A team loses 2 points for every loss to a non-D-1 team (because that is a sorry loss)
- A team earns 2 extra points for a vicory over another player's non-AP top 10 team (3 total)
- A team earns 2 extra point for a victory over a non-player AP top 10 team (3 total)
- A team earns 4 extra point for a victory over another player's AP top 10 team (5 total)
- A team that wins a pre / in-season tournament receives points as follows (SUBJECT TO CHANGE BY BABBLEMUR):
a. Coaches Vs Cancer = 4 pts
b. NIT Preseason = 4
c. College Ball Experience Classic = 3
d. Maui Invitational = 3
e. Great Alaskan Shootout = 3
f. Old Spice Classic = 3
g. Puerto Rico Tipoff = 3
h. Anaheim Classic = 3
i. Paradise Jam = 3
- A team that wins a major conference regular season earns 7 points
- A team that wins a non-major conference regular season earns 6 points
- A team that wins a major conference tournament earns 5 points
- A team that wins a non-major conference tournament earns 4 points
- A team that completes the regular conference season undefeated earns +3 points.
- A team that makes the post-season NIT final 4 receives 2 points*
- A team that makes the post-season NIT championship receives 4 points*
- The team that wins the post-season NIT championship receives 7 points*
- Each team that makes the NCAA tourney receives 4 points
- Each team earns 2 points for a NCAA tourney round 1 win*
- Each team earns 5 points for a NCAA tourney round 2 win*
- Each team earns 8 points for a NCAA tourney round 3 win*
- Each team earns 12 points for a NCAA tourney round 4 win*
- Each team earns 16 points for reaching the NCAA final*
- The team that wins the NCAA tourney earns 20 points.*
- * Each post-season win over another player will also include +2 points
Preseason Draft:
- Each player will draft 8 NCAA D-1 Men's Basketball Teams
- No team can be drafted by more than one player
- Round 1 draft order is chosen randomly
- Draft will follow snake draft method (team A picks 1 and 8, team B picks 2 and 7, etc)
- No player can draft more than 1 team from the same conference in the first 4 rounds
- No player can draft more than 2 teams from the same conference (in preseason)
Interim Draft and Release:
- The last week of January, each player must draft 2 additional teams.
- Draft order will utilize snake method, with pick 1 going to last place point earner
- A voluntary third round will take place following the 2-round draft, in which one team from the original roster can be dropped and a new team picked up. All existing points from original team will remain. Order will continue snake method from round 2.
- Points will begin to be earned by the new teams on February 2, and new points will no longer be added for the discarded team effective February 2.
More
- Major Conferences include: ACC, Big 10, Big East, Big 12, Pac 10, and SEC
- Winner receives highly coveted & valued prizes from the BabblemurVault & ProgressMedia
- Winner also receives a place in the honorable Babbleball Hall of Fame
- Re. Playing your own team. A victory over your own team does not produce the +2 effect, nor the +4 effect if it is a top 10 team. You would still earn 1 point for a victory.
- While the CBI itself isn't worth anything, a team will still earn 1 point for each victory, and +2 for a victory over another player's team throughout CBI play
- Only the preseason tourneys listed are worth additional points for winning.
- AP poll is effective 2:00pm on each Monday throughout the pre and regular season, and lasts through the end of conference tourneys. Following the conference tourney, you will no longer receive a +2 bonus for defeating a "top ten" team
- If two teams tie for conference regular season champs, both teams are awarded full points
- Winning a division within a conference does not produce additional bonus points under the conference champion rule. If a conference is divided into divisions, only the overall conference champion will be awarded the bonus points, with no bonus points for winning a division but not the overall conference
Saturday, March 28, 2009
Rule Change Vote
Below are 9 proposed changes to our scoring system. We will implement the 2 with the most votes for next year. Each player has 3 votes. Votes can be piled up onto one change (example all 3 of Bab’s votes go for C). Vote by commenting below. Add your name.
A. AP Top 25 win +1 pt. Currently, you receive +2 for a top 10 win. This change would keep the +2 over the top 10, but would add +1 to wins over AP 11-25.
B. Undefeated: +3 pts for an undefeated regular season conference. Currently, no points are allocated for successfully going undefeated in conference play. In 2009, this bonus would have only affected Gonzaga and Memphis. In 2007, Memphis, Cornell, and Davidson would have achieved this.
C. Preseason: Add an additional +1 pt to each pre-season tourney in which points are given. Early season tend to lack significant point action, and increasing preseason tourney values by 25-33% will add a little more early excitement.
D. CBI points: A team that reaches the CBI final receives +2. The team that wins the CBI received +4. In 2009, over ½ of the CBI teams were player teams. At current, no CBI games receive bonuses. Increasing the championship adds a little more significance.
E. NIT points: A team that reaches the Final 8 of the NIT receives +1. A team that reaches the NIT final 4 receives +3. A team that reaches the NIT championship game receives +5. The team that wins the NIT receives +7. At current, you receive +2 for the final 4, + 4 for making the final, and +7 for winning.
F. NCAA points: Add +1 additional point to winners of round 1, 2, and 3. Currently, a round 1 win is worth +2, a round 2 win is worth 5, a round 3 win is worth 8, with a round 4 win jumping up to 13.
G. Conf Grouping & Point Restructuring: Create 3 conference tiers: Major, Mid-Major, and Minor. Major conferences (6 confs) would not change. Mid-Major (9 confs) would consist of Atl 10, Mountain West, Miss Valley, CUSA, Horizon, WAC, West Coast, MAC, & CAA. Minor would consist of the rest (16 confs). Tier one reg season championship: 10 pts; Tier two reg season championship: 8 pts; Tier three reg season championship: 6 pts. A conf tourney champion would receive: 8, 6, and 4. At current, there is no mid-major tier, a team that wins a major conference regular season earns 7 points and a non-major conference regular season earns 6 points; A team that wins a major conference tournament earns 5 points and a non-major 4 points.
H. Trades: Players can trade draft order spots with certain restrictions. Each player must have a draft pick in every round, and each draft order trade must include 2 rounds for each player. For example, Turtle may trade his 3rd pick and 22nd pick for Gunz’s 12th and 13th pick. Selected teams may not be traded.
I. Bad: A loss by an AP top 25 team to an unrated team by over 35 points results in –5 pts.
A. AP Top 25 win +1 pt. Currently, you receive +2 for a top 10 win. This change would keep the +2 over the top 10, but would add +1 to wins over AP 11-25.
B. Undefeated: +3 pts for an undefeated regular season conference. Currently, no points are allocated for successfully going undefeated in conference play. In 2009, this bonus would have only affected Gonzaga and Memphis. In 2007, Memphis, Cornell, and Davidson would have achieved this.
C. Preseason: Add an additional +1 pt to each pre-season tourney in which points are given. Early season tend to lack significant point action, and increasing preseason tourney values by 25-33% will add a little more early excitement.
D. CBI points: A team that reaches the CBI final receives +2. The team that wins the CBI received +4. In 2009, over ½ of the CBI teams were player teams. At current, no CBI games receive bonuses. Increasing the championship adds a little more significance.
E. NIT points: A team that reaches the Final 8 of the NIT receives +1. A team that reaches the NIT final 4 receives +3. A team that reaches the NIT championship game receives +5. The team that wins the NIT receives +7. At current, you receive +2 for the final 4, + 4 for making the final, and +7 for winning.
F. NCAA points: Add +1 additional point to winners of round 1, 2, and 3. Currently, a round 1 win is worth +2, a round 2 win is worth 5, a round 3 win is worth 8, with a round 4 win jumping up to 13.
G. Conf Grouping & Point Restructuring: Create 3 conference tiers: Major, Mid-Major, and Minor. Major conferences (6 confs) would not change. Mid-Major (9 confs) would consist of Atl 10, Mountain West, Miss Valley, CUSA, Horizon, WAC, West Coast, MAC, & CAA. Minor would consist of the rest (16 confs). Tier one reg season championship: 10 pts; Tier two reg season championship: 8 pts; Tier three reg season championship: 6 pts. A conf tourney champion would receive: 8, 6, and 4. At current, there is no mid-major tier, a team that wins a major conference regular season earns 7 points and a non-major conference regular season earns 6 points; A team that wins a major conference tournament earns 5 points and a non-major 4 points.
H. Trades: Players can trade draft order spots with certain restrictions. Each player must have a draft pick in every round, and each draft order trade must include 2 rounds for each player. For example, Turtle may trade his 3rd pick and 22nd pick for Gunz’s 12th and 13th pick. Selected teams may not be traded.
I. Bad: A loss by an AP top 25 team to an unrated team by over 35 points results in –5 pts.
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