Reposting this so as to come to a final agreement on the new rules. Please take a look and comment on your thoughts. Note in the NCAA tourney point section, I added ( ) around numbers. Based on past commentary, numerous folks didn't like the small decrease in NCAA points, so the ( ) represents a possible option for adding back a few points.
Overview:
Players select teams from NCAA D-1 Men's Basketball in a draft before the season begins. Points are earned by winning games, tournaments, conference standings, and by beating other players. The goal - to have the most points at the end of the season.
Scoring:
- A team earns 1 point for every 1 D-1 win
- A team loses 2 points for every loss to a non-D-1 team (because that is a sorry loss)
- A team earns 2 extra points for a vicory over another player's non-AP top 10 team (3 total)
- A team earns 2 extra point for a victory over a non-player AP top 10 team (3 total)
- A team earns 4 extra point for a victory over another player's AP top 10 team (5 total)
- A team that wins a pre / in-season tournament receives points as assigned by babblemur here
- A team that wins a major conference (6) regular season earns 9 points
- A team that wins a mid-major conference (9) regular season earns 7 points
- A team that wins a non-major conference (16) regular season earns 6 points
- A team that wins a major conference (6) tournament earns 7 points
- A team that wins a mid-major conference (9) tournament earns 5 points
- A team that wins a non-major conference (16) tournament earns 4 points
- A team that completes the regular conference season undefeated earns +3 points.
- A team that makes the post-season NIT final 4 receives 2 points*
- A team that makes the post-season NIT championship receives 4 points*
- The team that wins the post-season NIT championship receives 7 points*
- Each team that makes the NCAA tourney receives 3 points
- Each team earns 2 points for a NCAA tourney play-in game win*
- Each team earns 4 points for a NCAA tourney round 1 win*
- Each team earns 6 points for a NCAA tourney round 2 win*
- Each team earns 8 points for a NCAA tourney round 3 win*
- Each team earns 11 points for a NCAA tourney round 4 win*
- Each team earns 14 points for reaching the NCAA final*
- The team that wins the NCAA tourney earns 17 points.*
- * Each post-season win over another player will also include +2 points
Preseason Draft:
- Each player will draft 8 NCAA D-1 Men's Basketball Teams
- No team can be drafted by more than one player
- Round 1 draft order is chosen randomly and videotapped
- Draft order will follow snake draft method (team A picks 1 and 10, team B picks 2 and 9, etc)
- No player can draft more than 1 team from the same conference in the first 4 rounds
- No player can draft more than 2 teams from the same conference (in preseason)
Interim Draft and Release:
- The last week of January, each player must draft 2 additional teams.
- Draft order will utilize snake method, with pick 1 going to last place point earner
- A voluntary third round will take place following the 2-round draft, in which one team from the original roster can be dropped and a new team picked up. All existing points from original team will remain. Order will continue snake method from round 2.
- Points will begin to be earned by the new teams on February 2, and new points will no longer be added for the discarded team effective February 2.
Additional Rule Elements:
- Major Conferences include: ACC, Big 10, Big East, Big 12, Pac 10, and SEC
- Mid-Major Conferences include: Atl 10, Mountain West, Miss Valley, CUSA, Horizon, WAC, West Coast, MAC, & CAA
- Winner receives highly coveted & valued prizes from the BabblemurVault
- Winner also receives a place in the honorable Babbleball Hall of Fame
- Re. Playing your own team. A victory over your own team does not produce the +2 effect, nor the +4 effect if it is a top 10 team. You would still earn 1 point for a victory.
- While the CBI or any other post season tourney itself isn't worth anything, a team will still earn 1 point for each victory, and +2 for a victory over another player's team throughout play
- Only the preseason tourneys listed are worth additional points for winning.
- AP poll is effective 2:00pm on each Monday throughout the pre and regular season, and lasts through the end of conference tourneys. Following the conference tourney, you will no longer receive a +2 bonus for defeating a "top ten" team
- If two teams tie for conference regular season champs, head to head winner is awarded the points. If still a tie, both teams are awarded full points.
- Winning a division within a conference does not produce additional bonus points under the conference champion rule. If a conference is divided into divisions, only the overall conference champion will be awarded the bonus points, with no bonus points for winning a division but not the overall conference
7 comments:
It seems as if points for conference champs and tourneys went up and points for NCAA championship went down.
I'm still thinking about this.
~Babs
sort-of: the NCAA victor loses about 8 points over the course of the whole tourney. Meanwhile, the teams that accomplish the impressive feat of winning a regular season conference are rewarded by added 1-3 points.
Small changes, but meaningful in that the conference regular season winners deserve to get points. This also "spreads the wealth" by giving more teams more opportunities to be valuable.
~ Regular winner of league
Last year Duke got 67 points for winning the NCAA Tournament, on top of 101 points elsewhere (7 for winning the ACC regular season, 5 for winning the ACC Tourney).
Under this point system they would get 54 (-13) for being the National Champs, 9 (+2) for being ACC Champs, and 7 (+2) for winning ACC Tourney. So for this triple slamma they get 9 less points.
Your alternate points (in parentheses) for Tournament points would give the national champion 60 for post season, a good middle ground I think.
~Babs
Also I think splitting the conferences into three groups is fine, if they are split at all. Having only the big 6 worth more last year hurt the teams in the mid majors because there were less teams drafted in the MWC, MVC, Horizon, etc.
~Babs
I think that adding the middle tier makes those 9 conferences worth just a bit more that past years - maybe 3 pts total.
But much of what we mess with is a matter of 3 points, which it appears can make a huge difference come final standings time.
If again you look at the MWC and Atl 10, it is without question that the winner should be rewarded more than, say, Alabama St and the SWAC.
Lastly, you need to review preseason tourneys and put together the points.
J
And just so everyone knows, you often need to click "post comment" twice for it to go through.
I like the slightly higher points in the tourney in parentheses, but everything else looks cool.
-The Gunz
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